Update: Marysville man jailed in daughter's shooting death

" I can only imagine the horror that this man must have felt after he accidentally shot his daughter in the head. "

" Being the parent of a 7 and 9 year old myself, I just pray for the whole family through this tradegy. "

" It will never cease to amaze me how anyone who is cleaning a gun, can do that while it is loaded. Ammo should be locked up whenever a gun is disassembled. I'm sure there is more to the story, but what a horrible accident that should never happen. "

" C'mon, all you gun nuts. Lets hear your justifications for gun ownership now. What price do you insist the rest of us pay...so you can have your pathetic, outdated rights to bear arms? "

" I still don't see after all the years of cleaning my guns and hearing this story how anyone can be so stupid as to clean a loaded weapon. I feel for the girl to bad the father missed his own head. stupid is natural selections only hope in a modern society "

" Amazed, I'll give up my constitutional "pathetic, outdated rights to bear arms" when you give up your constitutional right to free speech. "

" My dad used to clean his guns at the kitchen table when I was little. I remember him ALWAYS making sure there were NO bullets in the chamnber before dong so. Why can't pther people do the same it only takes a second and could have saved many lives. It's just STUPID not to check. "

" because you can buy a gun doesn't mean you know how to handle one!!!!SAD SAD SAD!!! "

" I personally don't own a gun but come on amazed by ignorance. Accidents happen all the time. Should we take away peoples right to drive too? Way more people get killed in car accidents. Besides, do you really want the government and criminals to be the only people with guns? Cause that sounds pretty awesome... "

" I don't own a gun but have no problem with people that do It Is not the gun It Is the handler just like some folks and dogs or even driving a car, shall we take that away from everybody to? "

" RE: Amazed by Ignorance- I am truly amazed by your PROFOUNDLY ignorant statement. 1st, this tradegy will suffered by all that knew this little girl. 2nd, I bet this guy was not responsible enough to own a firearm in the first place since it is apparent he violated the first two rules of weapons handling, treat them like they are all loaded, and ensure your gun is EMPTY before you clean it. Also I dont buy the "accidental" shot to the head story.

LASTY, our "pathetic, outdated right to bear arms" is as relevent today as it was back then. You feel the need to spout off at all us "gun nuts". People with your mentality are the true problem involving gun control. You do not UNDERSTAND them, so you blindy FEAR them. "

" Amazed By Ignorance: Yes, this was a tragic incident caused by the negligence of the father. The first rule in cleaning a firearm is to clear the chamber before cleaning. I've had a few friends who have had this accident occur where they have shot their house or themselves. Owning a firearm may be a right but it is also a privelage. As some citizens in our country are not allowed, by law, to posess a firearm. The same law/privelage is also given or denied to drivers. Sometimes a citzen takes the life of a loved one by their negligence behind the wheel of an automobile. This tragic incident will live on in the memory of this father for the rest of his life. The price to be paid is by him alone not by society and not by you. If you want to take firearms away from everyone then start with the police and when you encounter a problem in your life lets see what kind of assitance you get. I've lived my life with gun in hand for work and country and am well aware of the price to be paid. If it's not for you then that's just fine. That is an ignorant statement fueled by a comatose perception of reality. I wish you the best of times in your world of make believe. "

" Firstly. I don't fear guns. I happen to be quite the marksman. Unlike some out here, I have had cause to shoot at someone, and I have been shot at. So, don't seek to get into my head, without knowing the facts. No, I never served in the military. No, I'm not a criminal. Secondly, there's a world of difference between the first and second amendments, so that's just a moronic comparision to make. The old "only criminals would have guns" argument? Crapola. Other nations have banned private ownership...I don't see them going swirly. Thirdly, will someone explain to me just how the 2nd amendment is relevant in todays America when we have an established armed force? Takes the entire "need for a well organized and established militia" well and properly out of the disussion now, doesn't it? Unless of course...you're a person that so fears our government...that God forbid, you think that shotgun or pistol would really matter to a tank? Bottomline? Accidents like this wouldn't occur as often as they do...if some of you gun nuts would pull your heads out of the 18th century. What is it that scares you all so much? "

" Amazed By Ignorance: Owning a firearm is an individual choice and there are many reasons why people choose to have one. The reason I have mine is because I've lived with firearms my whole life and have no reason to fear them. I respect my firearms and I am comfortable in my ability to safely store, clean and fire my firearms. The 2nd Amendment may be outdated but there's one thing that it can't state which is what would occur with a collapse of government. I have friends and family in different parts of England where private citizens, with exception, aren't allowed posession of firearms. Yet, criminals still manage to get control of them. Even here in the US you can get your hands on anything illegal. In this area alone you can have whatever it is your crazy heart desires no matter the illegality. I choose to have my firearms in the event where social disorder erupts and the local/federal government is unable to provide me and my family with the safety my tax dollars provide. My cousin was stuck in New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina struck. That is a prime "when the s hits the fan" example. Don't think something similar can't occur in our area or on a larger scale. It's better to be prepared to defend than to succumb to the true nature of people. I'm sorry, but in the real world, evil always defeats good. If you've experienced what I have then you'd know. "

" Amazed by Ignorance, you ask a fair question. My response to you is for to get all the Liberals together who want to remove guns from the good citizens and come up with absolute way to take guns away from the bad guys. And then you figure out a way to guarantee me that bad guys will not come onto my property and do harm to my family or my property. You do that. Show me that works. And then I will sit down and have a reasonable discussion with you about the Second Amendment and my rights to own a gun. But until you do that don't come after the law-abiding people who have guns. They are not the problem. Solve the real problems and leave the law-abiding people alone. "

" Dear "Amazed", there are many among us that are target shooters and hunters that use and store our "tools of the trade" in a responsible, safe place and manner. That we have weapons and find enjoyment through their usage doesn't mean we're scared, ignorant, or neanderthals. They are no different than the other machines that we surround ourselves with, in that they can be used in a safe manner, or used irresponsibly with harm to self and/or others. P.S. You state that you've had cause to shoot at others and have been shot at. Did you actually shoot at them or just have cause to? If you did shoot at them, wouldn't that action make your statements above hypocritical? And if you didn't shoot at them (but merely had cause to), don't you think your skin was worth defending in kind? Your argument that other nations have banned guns and "I don't see them going swirly", has no basis in fact as every country that has banned legal ownership of firearms still has firearm related crimes. To think that because a law is passed, all people will comply is pollyannish. You might just as well pass a law making crime "illegal". "

" "Amazed", I do not condemn you for choosing not to arm yourself. However, as I am not yet able to run 1,200 ft/sec, if someone starts shooting at me, they'd best be expecting lead flying back in their direction. "

" Self Test for Paranoia: You know you have it when you can't think of anything that's your own fault. "

" You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers .
Nuff said "

" Amazed, I won't even argue with you about the government being the only ones with guns because it is a pointless battle. On the other hand, you say criminals being the only ones with guns is a joke and nothing to worry about. The country as a whole might be ok because we still have military backing, but look at the smaller picture. Individual lives would be at stake. Picture this: a thief breaks into my house. I don't have a gun because uncle sam raped another right. The criminal however does. Watch me lose all my possessions and/or life. Scenario B: a thief breaks into my house and is armed. I grab the gun by my bedside and shoot him. I'm alive, I have all my things, the world is better with one less scum-bag. How can you be all for giving up rights? Go live in a dictatorship. See how awesome it will be... "

" According to the SeattlePI the father was also drunk when this happened so he fail that part of the safety requirement also. He should get 10yrs and have the right to own/posess a weapon for life. Treat every weapon as if it is loaded. No ammunition near you when cleaning a weapon. "

" Amazed by ignorance: Your ugliness in this blog is the only amazing thing about it. How dare you smear the memory of this precious child with your untimely and ignorant rants on gun control. This is not the time, not the time at all. "

" It is a sad day when any life is taken so tragicly. A friend of mine passed when he accidently shot himself in the head with a muzzleloader while cleaning it. So I guess in a perfect world accidents dont happen and we all live in harmony. But obviously, that dont happen. So I guess all we can do is pray for their loss and raise awarness and hope we can at least save 1 life by doing so. "

" Amazed, the article doesn't state what type of gun he was cleaning, it could just as well have been a hunting rifle that he uses to put food on the table in these hard times. "

" I have owned weapons my whole life and I clean them on a regular basis. I have never heard of getting accidently shot by a weapon. You can call it what you want but I call it reckless in dangerment when you clean a weapon drunk and without clearing the weapon first. People like this should never posess a weapon of any kind. But to say that all weapons should be banned is what is wrong with this country. The liberals have already made it almost impossible to raise our children. If you punish them then its abuse because they have rights. Yes the do but you as the parent have the moral right and obligation to raise them to be law abiding and productive citizens. If them parents could do that them maybe this stuff wouldn't happen. "

" Mom of 2: You are totally right. The ultra liberals are wanting a society of people who don't take personal responsibility for their actions. The government doesn't want to be big brother, it wants to be the mommy. The government is creating a society of people who are dependant upon them. Soon enough the system will collapse because everyone feels "special" when in fact no one is special. By making "special" rights you are saying that one person takes precedense over another. Do you people tell your children that one of them is "special" and the other one isn't? Hmmm? Come on you ultra-liberal huggie-feely people. What kind of situation does it place your children in when you tell only one of them that their "special"? Anomisity? It seems like everything with this generation is "special". Their right though...people who don't think for themselves are special. The first step in manipulating a person is to make them feel special. "

" According to the Seattle Times, it was a colt .45 and it had a hair trigger. He released the clip and pulled the trigger and it "went off". He's obviously negligent and deserves whatever punishment is dished out (although I'm sure no punishment can match the loss of his daughter). As far as gun rights go, conservatives always resort to fear in order to push their agenda - the liberals are trying to take away the guns.... "

" I just read this and my stomach sank.



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