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 Anthony Michael James Scott finishes his first court appearance by closed-circuit television in Cowlitz County Superior Court. Bill Wagner / The Daily News file photo
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Murder suspect's parents say they were trying to help him get his life together
Monday, October 20, 2008 11:30 PM PDT
By Barbara LaBoe
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E-mail this articleThe parents of the man accused of killing his estranged girlfriend’s mother and shooting her father said Monday that their son is misunderstood and not a naturally violent person. And they say they fear for their son’s safety.
Michael Scott and Yevonne Littlejohn divorced when Anthony Michael James Scott, 19, was a young boy. Previous stories listed William Littlejohn, Anthony Scott’s step-father, as his father based on jail records.
Both parents live in Arizona, though Littlejohn was in Longview with her son on Oct. 7 — the day Kathy Tubbs was killed and Bob Tubbs was shot twice in the arms at their home on the 200 block of 24th Avenue in Longview.
Anthony Scott has been charged with first-degree murder, attempted first-degree murder, burglary with a firearm, unlawful possession of a firearm and felony harassment (domestic violence).
Court documents and friends of the family say Anthony Scott was upset that the Tubbs’ daughter Cassandra had broken up with him and that he’d been asked to move out of the Tubbs’ home. Friends of the family also said Anthony Scott sent his ex-girlfriend a taunting message after the shooting, according to what family members told them.
Michael Scott was on vacation and said he didn’t learn of the shooting or his son’s arrest until Thursday. His son often spent summers with him, including this past year.
“It just knocked me right off my rear end,” he said Monday in a telephone interview. “This is what you hear about somebody else’s kid, something on the news. It don’t happen to your kid. ... He’s a decent young man. I never expected anything like this. ... This is just a devastation to both families. When you get a shooting victim it’s not just the person who passes away, you also lose the person who did the crime.”
Littlejohn said her son has had problems with fights in the past — but only when provoked. And, she said his long-time mental problems and lack of medication likely contributed to the shooting. Anthony Scott told police he “blacked out” and remembers nothing about the shooting, according to court documents.
“He always had a violent past but he only gets violent when he’s provoked,” Littlejohn said, adding past problems were physical fights that never included weapons. “He never did stuff like that just out spite. It was always somebody provoking him or picking on him. ... His mind isn’t like ours. He sees monsters and creatures coming after him.”
Her son is still in one his “zones” that he gets when upset and so far is still “babbling” right now, Littlejohn said in a telephone interview Monday. She spoke to him shortly before the shooting and knew he was upset but she had no idea how he got a gun or what caused him to seek one out, Littlejohn said.
She was trying to move her son back to Arizona to help him get his life back on track, and was gathering belongings to pack at the time of the shooting, Littlejohn said. Anthony Scott didn’t graduate high school, having been kicked out for behavior problems in the 11th grade while in Arizona, Littlejohn said.
Michael Scott, a cab driver, said he offered to get his eldest son a job and a car in Arizona but he was young and wanted to stay with his girlfriend.
“I told him he was getting old enough to get his life together, but when you’re 18 or 19 you think you have the world by the tail,” Michael Scott said.
Michael Scott said he’s saddened for the Tubbs family loss, but he’s also worried about his son and his family.
“I’m very sorry for the family members who have been lost and injured, but it’s not just the (victim’s) family that’s hurting,” he said, adding Anthony’s two brothers and two half-brothers are reeling from the news. “I feel like I betrayed my son or let him down in some way. I didn’t teach him something.”
No direct threats have been made against their son, but both Michael Scott and Littlejohn said they fear he could be harmed during court hearings. Michael Scott said he asked that the courtroom be closed for a scheduled court appearance today, but was advised by his son’s public defender that that’s not an option.
Michael Scott hasn’t spoken to his son yet but did send money for a telephone card. He also hopes to travel to Longview for subsequent court hearings.
“He’s going to have to pay for what he’s done,” Michael Scott said. “But no matter what he’s done I’ll always love him. He’ll always be my son.”
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Gondolapete wrote on Oct 20, 2008 11:49 PM:
" As the brother of a cop, I hear all the stories..."He is misunderstood" "Was just getting his life in order"..Blah, Blah, Blah....The cards were dealt, and this person intentionally chose to play bad hands... "
loudly wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:46 AM:
" Please, please, please, parents of this guy Don't make excuses for him! It makes you sound so un-educated and bigoted! What did you think? The man's out to get him? I'm so sick of hearing that lame excuse. If you think his murdering two people is racist then call Al Sharpton, I'm sure he won't touch this case since he can't fleece anyone. Just support your son. Don't make excuses for his actions. It doesn't make his parents bad people. "
mom of four wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:54 AM:
" Was his mom involved? Seems to me that she is being "to overbarring". Something fishy. It is one thing to protect your child it is another to try to sweep what they do wrong under the carpet. "
mybaby1952 wrote on Oct 21, 2008 2:22 AM:
" As a parent, I'm trying to figure out WHY you and your divorced wife didn't seek out help for your son years ago, when you first saw signs of behavioral problems.
I noticed in the article that you and your divorced wife were VERY CAREFUL when talking about your sons ANGRE ISSUES. I can't believe how little sympathy your family have for the Tubbs family!! All your worried about is your PRECIOUS son who you'll be able to visit from time to time. As for the Tubbs family, they'll have to go to the cemetery to visit their loved one Kathy. "
I noticed in the article that you and your divorced wife were VERY CAREFUL when talking about your sons ANGRE ISSUES. I can't believe how little sympathy your family have for the Tubbs family!! All your worried about is your PRECIOUS son who you'll be able to visit from time to time. As for the Tubbs family, they'll have to go to the cemetery to visit their loved one Kathy. "
cheney119 wrote on Oct 21, 2008 3:39 AM:
" Guntoting Gondolapete has no sympathy, but he doesn't ask why this kid had access a gun in the first place. Until we address basic questions like firearms expect more of the same. No gun and everyone would still be alive and this kid would be at worst in jail for assault. Now we can pay for life in prison. Tell me how guns made anyone safer in this situation. "
DS wrote on Oct 21, 2008 4:59 AM:
" I am not sure anyone interviewed was tryig to excuse what he did. The truth is that when things like this happen everyone involved suffers. "
LVAlumni wrote on Oct 21, 2008 5:26 AM:
" As the mother of a troubled young man who has just become an adult, I have to say that I tried everything under the sun to help my son get his life together. He rejected the morals and values his father and I taught him, and instead has chosen a life of crime and drug abuse. Does this mean I didn't teach him right from wrong? NO. I put him thru the juvenile justice system for discipline, paid for his drug rehab, we tried EVERYTHING to help him "get his life together." There comes a day you have to realize as a parent that they make their own choices and must face their own consequences. It doesn't mean I love him any less. It means I believe he will get what he deserves, based upon his own choices and actions, and that I am powerless as to what those will be. His sister is his polar opposite - driven, motivated and law abiding. Parents, stop making excuses for your kid. He made his choices WITHOUT your influence. He's man enough to do the crime, he's man enough to do the time. "
Mama Mia wrote on Oct 21, 2008 5:51 AM:
" I feel terrible for this family, but it seems that provoced means "Can't have things I want and the way I want them!" That is not an excuse. There is too much entitlement already in the United States without adding personal "Wants" to the list! It is time we teach ourselves and our children self control and responsability. "
Kelso Resident wrote on Oct 21, 2008 5:58 AM:
" not a naturally violent person? He took a life of a person who offered him shelter in the past, this guy displays the highest level of violence. I don't have any mercy for him. "
stargoddess wrote on Oct 21, 2008 6:14 AM:
" It seems to me that the family is setting up the mental stability of the boy before it goes to trial....he sees monsters & creatures? And he's still babbling?
I'm sorry, just seems a little fishy to me. "
I'm sorry, just seems a little fishy to me. "
DMBKI wrote on Oct 21, 2008 6:56 AM:
" Sounds more like the parents are laying the grounds for a temporary insanity plea or that he's not competent to stand trial. Pretty convenient to say these things after he's killed someone. "
HotMomma wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:07 AM:
" Blah Blah Blah...to what u have to say Gondoapete. Show some respect for peoples feelings. Parents of the accused are victoms too. I know not in the same way. I relize it gets old hearing these comments, But that is a new circumstance for the family to deal with. Every one sees the best in their children...Even at their worst. "
Diesel wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:42 AM:
" Let's see. He has a violent past but only when provoked by others. Hmmm same old story. It's always someones elses fault because the person doing the crime is such a good person. He's in one of his zones? Guess that zone helped him think clear enough to get a gun and shoot 2 people and then send a text message to taunt his ex girlfriend. I can already see the plea bargin coming. "
RALMom2 wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:58 AM:
" I hope the parents of this young man reads this story and sees that they are no making any sense. They said "their son is misunderstood and not a naturally violent person. And they say they fear for their sons safety." By the end of the story they said, "He always had a violent past, but he only gets violent when provoked." Then they added "her son has had problems with fights in the past, but only when provoked".....are they actually saying that the victim's daughter BREAKING UP with him because he was VIOLENT and ABUSIVE was PROVOKING him into becoming violent enough to KILL? This is Bull! You can tell by myspace w/ the guns & drug photo that he IS into violence. And they were trying to get his back on track? You can't tell me that he wasn't showing ANY signs of this before. If they really wanted to help him they would have helped him sooner with his own place to live. Not leaving him to live with his g/f. They seem proud that they sent money for a phone card! If he needed medication he could have gotten FREE help before this. Not buying the mental & blacking out crap at all! Unfortunately Cowlitz Co. will slap him on the wrist like they always do. That's why the crime is getting so bad here. It's a known fact you can do whatever you want around here. His actions shows he knew what he was doing. "
TDN Bad Boy wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:10 AM:
" Oh sure he only gets violent when provoked and he sees monsters coming at him. His mother is just angling for an insane verdict. What a croc. The only monster her is this murderer. What a pathetic bunch. "
spete98611 wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:32 AM:
" It sounds to me that the parents of the accused have some mental health problems of their own. Lets get them out of the county before they decide to "black out". For everyone saying that we should show sympathy for these parents I just want to ask you why. If my children ever committed such a crime they would be found somewhere darker than a prison cell. There are rules that must be followed and this kind of a crime is not tolerable. Regardless of whether you will admit it or not but there are people who are expendable and this person was not. "
gabby wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:43 AM:
" Once a child turns 18 for the most part they are a legal adult and the parents have to step a side and let them follow the road of life he/she decides. As a partent with a son involved in Drug court (which is an outstanding program)it is hard to totaly walk away...but you can still love and support your child...BUT your child is the one that MUST decide which path to follow, even if you as a parent know it is the wrong one, they (should)know right from wrong. "
mikadax wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:56 AM:
" A history of violence and mental unstability,,,sounds like alot of other murderers to me. "
rosy wrote on Oct 21, 2008 9:01 AM:
" To the parents: Yes you certainly did fail to "teach" him something. And put yourself in my shoes. I live a few doors down from the Tubbs. You feel his safety is 'threatened'. With him out, I feel my safety is threatened. And yes, I have mental problems too. However, the difference is that I'm in therapy and I DON'T KILL PEOPLE when I'm upset.
Think about it. "
Think about it. "
El Fuego wrote on Oct 21, 2008 9:09 AM:
" Cheney119, as far as I am concerned you are standing on your soap box preaching to an empty crowd. Had this JERK not had access to a gun, he would have used something else ie; tire iron, baseball bat, knife, etc. We have all heard your arguments in the past about guns. I'm still waiting for someone (perhaps youself)to explain how an inanimate object got up, went to a residence it has never been to before and then commit a murder. Baseball bats don't kill, knives don't kill, nor do tire irons kill. PEOPLE KILL! Get it right. And no, I don't own a firearm. "
Jacks and Jills Fan! wrote on Oct 21, 2008 9:28 AM:
" Visual hallucinations are not common to mental illness. They are common to drug use. "
Cheney119 wrote on Oct 21, 2008 9:49 AM:
" El Fuego just keep telling yourself that and maybe you can convince yourself he would have done it with a knife. Guns are easy, how many people could really stab or bludgeon their advisory. Do you really think people who are violent and menatally unstable should all be packing heat? It was good he had a gun. Show a little common sense. Common Sense; what a concept. If it were really common everyone would have it and preferrably display some. Give it a try. "
SIMPLE MAN wrote on Oct 21, 2008 10:00 AM:
" CHENEY 119: No guns and we wouldnt have this problem? What is wrong with you? Do you really think that before guns were invented that nobody was murdered? Cavemen murdered each other with sharp sticks and heavy rocks, give me a break. An eye for an eye is what this guy deserves. Make an example out of him. "
Amazed By Ignorance wrote on Oct 21, 2008 10:05 AM:
" How do I immigrate to the world of all things being black and white? These people, are doing what any parent would do if faced with a tragic situation such as this. I shouldn't even bother to comment. Apparently, we have plenty of pshycotherapists, clairvoyants and behavioral experts here in the Longview/Kelso area. A pity we don't have more human beings. "
SIMPLE MAN wrote on Oct 21, 2008 10:06 AM:
" Anyways Cheney what is your plan? Your going to take guns off the streets. So you pass a law and all the US citizens have to take their guns to collectoion points. 1 problem only the law abiding citizens will do it, the murderers and "gangsters" will be the only ones with guns because they arent going to turn theirs in. Use some common sense. Where does an eye for an eye come from? "
SPARROW wrote on Oct 21, 2008 10:13 AM:
" To Anthony's father (Michael Scott), who blames himself for not teaching him things. Your relationship with your son for most of his life has been visits during the summer! You can't expect to be to much of an influence on a child's life at this rate. Nor can one say you really know each other with this absence of relations.
To Anthony's mother (Yevonne Littlejohn), who says her son only is violent when provoked. You seem to accept this as normal reaction for a person to have when they do not get their way. Ignoring or allowing a small child throwing tantrums, kicking and screaming on the floor when they do not get their way, turns to violence and destruction as a release when they grow up, and don't get their way. Was Wm Littlejohn (stepfather) involved with Anthony's life or still married to his mother when incarcerated and eventually extradited from Cowlitz jail, which was the Friday before the shooting? Was this the father figure who raised Anthony? I don't blame the parents for the bad things their kids do in life, but I sure feel a lot of influence comes from the family situation, expecially in very young years when babies start out life mimicing those who they have around them. Violence is learned from experience or observations somewhere along the way, and should never be accepted as normal behavior for man or animal. "
To Anthony's mother (Yevonne Littlejohn), who says her son only is violent when provoked. You seem to accept this as normal reaction for a person to have when they do not get their way. Ignoring or allowing a small child throwing tantrums, kicking and screaming on the floor when they do not get their way, turns to violence and destruction as a release when they grow up, and don't get their way. Was Wm Littlejohn (stepfather) involved with Anthony's life or still married to his mother when incarcerated and eventually extradited from Cowlitz jail, which was the Friday before the shooting? Was this the father figure who raised Anthony? I don't blame the parents for the bad things their kids do in life, but I sure feel a lot of influence comes from the family situation, expecially in very young years when babies start out life mimicing those who they have around them. Violence is learned from experience or observations somewhere along the way, and should never be accepted as normal behavior for man or animal. "
LongviewFam wrote on Oct 21, 2008 10:34 AM:
" TDN: Horrible, unspeakable crimes were committed on innocent people. One man is being accused of these crimes. Whether or not his parents have had something to do with the formation of his personality or made mistakes in anticipating his state of mind, the fact is, the adult Anthony Michael James Scott, and NO ONE else acted. Lots of people have crummy childhoods and don't murder other humans. You should be screening these comments more carefully when people blog about the parents. Seems to me you've broken your own rule of: Personal privacy. Personally attacking someone... "
Kalama rose wrote on Oct 21, 2008 10:37 AM:
" "Visual hallucinations are not common to mental illness" is not a correct statement. I'm not defending the actions of the accused killer, just trying to keep misinformation from being taken as truth. Persons with schizophrenia experience both visual and auditory hallucinations-remember "A Beautiful Mind"? Typically the first break, meaning first psychotic episode, occurs in the person's late teens. Psychosis can also occur in persons with uncontrolled bipolar disorder. The mother of the accused stated he had been off his medications. Most of the medications for these types of illnesses cost hundreds of dollars a month and many agencies will not give "free help" to pay for psychotropic meds. Many people with psychosis do self medicate with street drugs due to lack of funding which only exacerbates their symptoms. It also takes an incredible amount of time, energy and perserverance to support persons with mental illness which in many cases is refused. My sympathies to all involved in this sad event. "
Cheney119 wrote on Oct 21, 2008 10:48 AM:
" Where does an eye for an eye come from? How about the koran, it's muslim. Maybe we should behead him in a stadium like the Saudis or the Taliban would do. This kid didn't have a job, but by god he had a gun. How about keeping crazy immature people from owning or obtaining weapons. I'd say that's common sense, but I'm sure there will be those who will defend the rights of the crazy defend themselves from all threats, real and imagined. I've got a feeling that the majority of the threats you are all so afraid of are the latter and not the former. Imagine that! "
Gondolapete wrote on Oct 21, 2008 11:34 AM:
" Cheney119..So the real problem is the gun he had?? So a persons behavior is not a factor??? And yes, I am a guntoter..Thank you for getting one thing correct. But it's a serious flaw in society when people place blame on guns rather than the shooter of said gun. "
LadyHarleyRider wrote on Oct 21, 2008 11:39 AM:
" My Question is "Have they found the gun"? If this man needed meds and his parents knew it why didn't they start there by making sure he had his meds. Also if he had those kinds of problems why wasn't his parent concerned about his behavior. Now they are concerned and making excusses for it. It took him to shoot one dead and injure another before they come to his rescue. If my child had this type of problem i would do what i could to make sure he go the proper help and meds before something like this happened. Has anyone heard how bob is doing? "
Gondolapete wrote on Oct 21, 2008 11:40 AM:
" And as far as Cheney119s comment regarding who has guns made safer?? Well justifiable shootings are at a 10 yr high right now...so I would say plenty of gun owners feel safer right now.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/1224491,CST-NWS-just16.article "
http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/1224491,CST-NWS-just16.article "
working mom wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:00 PM:
" First of all I would like to send blessing to the family who lost there loved one. No one knows what they are going through right now.
As for this young man having anger issues. I have a 16 yr old son with Autism who has a huge anger issue. I know this firts hand because this past summer he assulted me. I love my son but felt he needed to understand that what he did was wrong. I had him arrested and he spent 17 days in juvy for domestic assult. This was very hard for me to do and I missed him very much while he was gone. It has made a world of differance for him. I'm not saying he is anger free but he now thinks twice about getting angry and taking it out on others. You would never hear me say, (He has Autism he doesn't know any better)Because I belive he does. This young mans Family can show him love and support while still holding him accountable for his actions. It's called Tough Love. "
As for this young man having anger issues. I have a 16 yr old son with Autism who has a huge anger issue. I know this firts hand because this past summer he assulted me. I love my son but felt he needed to understand that what he did was wrong. I had him arrested and he spent 17 days in juvy for domestic assult. This was very hard for me to do and I missed him very much while he was gone. It has made a world of differance for him. I'm not saying he is anger free but he now thinks twice about getting angry and taking it out on others. You would never hear me say, (He has Autism he doesn't know any better)Because I belive he does. This young mans Family can show him love and support while still holding him accountable for his actions. It's called Tough Love. "
SIMPLE MAN wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:33 PM:
" Cheney: The Koran, really? I swear it came from the Book of Exodus "Life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth" (Deuteronomy 19:21). But what do I know? "
Diesel wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:43 PM:
" TO TDN STAFF: can you verify any of the facts listeed on the kgw web page? Some interesting stuff there about threats to the arresting officer. "
mstercor wrote on Oct 21, 2008 1:20 PM:
" i am a friend of kathy's. yes i think this guy deserves life with no parole, but i do feel for his parents. i look at my ten year old son and when i tell him i love him no matter what, well, no matter what is now for this young mans family. "
VenomousVixon wrote on Oct 21, 2008 1:52 PM:
" I am so sick for people making excuses for loved ones when they screw up!!!! Their son screwed up BIG TIME!! And...it IS ju7st about the loss of a family member and the father harmed!!! Who cares about their son!! Thats what happens when you raise a bad seed...they grow up to be a bigger bad seed and cause undue harm to others no matter what is said or done...PERIOD! "Ohh...he's not a bad kid...just cause he beat up just about everyone he knew growing up.." BS!! He obviously has had anger management issues for YEARS!!! And no one sought out mental help for him?!?!?! What were these "parents" thinking would happen?!?!?! Sorry...this story really makes me angry...there was no excuse for killing an innocent person and trying to kill another NONE!! That "boy" should be locked up and someone just throw the key away....he did the crime...he must do the time! "
lovnlife wrote on Oct 21, 2008 1:58 PM:
" Cheney no matter what the law or how hard we try you can't keep people from getting a gun if they want it. This young man took a life and now he needs to pay the price. The bible says an eye for an eye and I feel that if you take a life (unless it is TRULY an ACCIDENT) then you should lose your life. Just my opinion! This young man killed someone and injured another, sitting in prison for the rest of his life would be like giving him a life long vacation. A warm place to sleep 3 meals a day and nothing to do. Why not be a criminal?? "
Leslie Slape wrote on Oct 21, 2008 2:03 PM:
" To Diesel, the threats mentioned in the story refer to a 2005 case, not the current case. "
VenomousVixon wrote on Oct 21, 2008 2:14 PM:
" The thing about "life" in prison...they are living on easy street at OUR expense!! They have rehabilitation programs, college programs, as well as a thousand other things that will make him a "productive" man of society eventually...all at our expense. However, The life of Mrs Tubbs is and will forever be lost. How do you put a pricetag on a life? The fact is...I called the insanity plea when this story first broke out. I knew they would play this card, because no one in their right mind would walk up to an innocent person and shoot them in the back. Thats just CRAZY!! And before someone corrects me on this point...I know that no one has actually used this as a defense ...yet. But it's already being insinuated by the parents in this article. Which makes me believe his lawyer will go for this tactic....sorry...I don't buy it for two seconds. Like I said before....moments after killing his ex girlfriends mother and harming her father...he texted his ex girlfriend and said that he left a surprise for her when she got home. Thats sick and demented!!! AND shows that he knew EXACTLY what he was doing...which means if he truly "blacked out", he wouldn't have remembered what he did, to remind his ex girlfriend what HE did... "
LUMPY wrote on Oct 21, 2008 2:46 PM:
" Guns don't kill people. People kill people. A gun just sitting there cannot harm anyone or anything until it is placed in someones hand!!!! "
cheney119 wrote on Oct 21, 2008 3:15 PM:
" In Islam the Quran permits exact and equivalent retribution, but your correct, it is in the old testament. It's not very christian though. Where's the love and foregiveness, aren't they the real tenants of christanity? The Code of Hammurabi is were it derives it's origin and that 1760bc. But do you really want to run around saying an eye for an eye? That's barbaric and I'll have nothing to do with it. As for all you gun toters out there that want to defend this murders right to keep and bare arms great. Please just don't tell me. Tell it to the Tubbs family, I'm sure they are really interested in your interpretation of the second amendment. You won't even acknowledge that some people should be allowed to own weapons, that's not reasonable and it's very easy to ignore all your arguements. "
Gondolapete wrote on Oct 21, 2008 4:11 PM:
" Cheney119..first off it is "bear arms" not bare arms..second off..its illegal for anyone in Wa state under the age of 21 to own a handgun in the first place..Are you aware of that??? So the perp was illegal all the way around...NEXT!!!!!!!!!! "
spete98611 wrote on Oct 21, 2008 6:46 PM:
" Kalama Rose: It's interesting that you bring up John Forbes Nash whom the movie A Beautiful Mind is based on. In reality Mr. Nash had auditory hallucinations not visual hallucinations as portrayed in the film. Hollywood felt it would be easier to tell the story by having his hallucinations be visual. "
Kitten wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:47 PM:
" Cheney119-"No gun and everyone would still be alive"? Where do you get that fact from? Has no one ever been killed in a heated dispute with something other than a gun? Maybe if the couple would have had a gun to defend themselves with, they would both still be alive and we would not be paying for an obviously tortured being to sit in jail the rest of his life. What law would have kept this guy from having a gun? He was illegal to begin with. You make no sense.
I do feel for his parents. It is not their fault that this story was printed. They will obviously love their son forever. I feel the Daily News showed poor taste in printing this one. "
I do feel for his parents. It is not their fault that this story was printed. They will obviously love their son forever. I feel the Daily News showed poor taste in printing this one. "
Tom wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:52 PM:
" Dick Cheney: If someone really wants to kill someone, they could smash their head in with a rock. Come on, man. Don't be a simpleton. "
sleepless wrote on Oct 21, 2008 11:30 PM:
" I feel sorry for the loss of this life..and the pain and suffering for the rest of the family.
I don't think what Anthony did is excusable in any way shape or form. He made a crime and he has to pay for it, provoked or not.
But please people keep Race and religion out of this, because believe me I've known people from all kinds of religions, races and countries: there is always the good the bad and the ugly. "
I don't think what Anthony did is excusable in any way shape or form. He made a crime and he has to pay for it, provoked or not.
But please people keep Race and religion out of this, because believe me I've known people from all kinds of religions, races and countries: there is always the good the bad and the ugly. "
cheney119 wrote on Oct 22, 2008 12:42 AM:
" I'm sure all your venom is a real comfort to the Tubbs Family. Don't tell it to me tell them your wonderful opinions on the second amendment you are all great constitutional scholars and just brilliant reasoning here. The availability of weapons killed their mother, they would have had a fighting chance against a bat or knife, pretty tough to out run a bullet. Not one of your arguments convinces me you people posess or utilize the brains of a field mouse. I'm such a wimp and I'm so afraid of my own shadow I absolutely have to have my precious gun, you people are pathetic and it kills people all the time for nothing. "
RALMom2 wrote on Oct 22, 2008 9:19 AM:
" What did the arresting officer in the 2005 case do to "provoke" the suspect into making threats against him? He probably asked the young man to sit down and he got angry. After all it just took breaking up with a girl to "provoke" him into killing somebody and then shoot her Father. I also wanted to mention that I agree on the gun issue. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. I also agree w/ the person that said only law abiding citizens would turn in their guns if they passed the law & every thug in the world would keep theirs so we will be unable to protect ourselves. You will NEVER take the gun out of the hands of a thug that has it illegally in the first place. You're insane to believe otherwise. FYI, I DO own a gun. I WILL protect my family & I was responsible enough to get properly trained on the use & safety of handling it. Not once, but MANY times. I'm also responsible enough to own a VERY BIG gun SAFE where it's locked up. Many Americans are responsible enough to get trained on the use & safety & are responsible enough to keep it out of hands of children. No way do I want to be left unprotected w/o my gun that I legally carry & watch thugs get to keep theirs because they didn't turn it in. Most of them are stolen in the first place! "
RALMom2 wrote on Oct 22, 2008 9:27 AM:
" We shouldn't forget about Bob....I hope he is doing well. Being shot yourself while dealing with the death of your wife and helping your kids deal with the death of their Mother in such a violent manner cannot be easy. My prayers continue to go to this family. Unexpected funeral costs and hospital costs can knock you for a loop, too. I wonder if the victim assistance group helped them? If not, I for one, would be willing to help raise money for their funeral and hospital bills. On a side note I have to say that I used to believe in the eye for an eye thing when I was in high school. I actually wrote my senior paper on it. Now after working in the background of legal cases I have seen too many people get totally screwed in the Cowlitz Co. courtrooms that I'm now afraid too many people would become victims for somethey they didn't do. Time after time I have seen people sit there & the judge order them to pay endless amounts of money for things that I know w/o a doubt they didn't do or a lot of jail time. There's nothing you can do! When they hand down the punishment that's it! I no longer believe in justice either. I've seen justice fly out the window day after day here in Cowlitz Co. It is frightening to see what's going on in the courtrooms. You are guilty until proven innocent here. "
Kalama rose wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:39 AM:
" To spete9811: I used the movie as an illustration. I have witnessed folks experiencing very vivid visual hallucintions in the course of my work. Also depicted in the movie is how very difficult it is to "make" people take medications. Usually what has to happen is some event where the person demonstrates they are a danger to self or others either by threats or action. This is because of laws which are in place to protect the individual's rights. Google "involuntary treatment" or "involuntary treatment act" for more information. This is a very complicated problem that most people are not aware of until a sometimes tragic situation draws public attention. Unfortunately in this case, apparently the danger signs went unrecognized until it was too late. Again, not trying to defend actions, just educate folks. "
unbelieveable wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:46 AM:
" You have got to be kidding! If he knew how to contact his x girlfriend, he was aware of what he was doing. An eye for an eye! This should not even be a question. Yes I feel sorry for the parents, but I also feel sorry for the children of Kathy Tubbs and Kathy's husband! "
harligrl45 wrote on Oct 22, 2008 8:49 PM:
" Blacked out my a**. What a crock, next he will plead insanity, anything other than accept responsibility for his actions. It was said he had anger issues, but only if he was provoked. What the hell does that mean, if provoked then it's ok? If he had anger problems why wasn't he getting any help for it. There is absolutely no excuse for what he did. "
RALMom2 wrote on Oct 22, 2008 11:58 PM:
" Cheney119's postings have convinced me that American's do not have the right to own guns. After all these years of being a gun owner & fighting for our right to have them...I'm giving up. I'm turning all my guns over to all the thugs in Longview. After a lot of research I have found that the second & third leading cause of death in murders are from sharp force injuries & blunt force injuries so I'm asking all of you to please turn over any sharp or blunt objects you may have in your home to the police immediately, the fourth cause of death in murders are due to strangulation. For our safety I urge all Americans to please amputate their hands, turn over all belts, ropes, any linear objects, panthose, or anything that may cause strangulation. (Please note you will need to turn over any telephone cords, blinds w/ cords, anything with material that may be ripped into thin sheets.) Shoes w/ shoestrings are also subject to removal from society. To make this world even safer make sure you knock on every door of the trillion thugs living in this world & remove their guns, shoestrings, blunt and sharp objects. Let's not forget to turn over every knife in this world including steak knives. They kill too ya know? What a minute....noo a knife much like a gun and rope didn't kill somebody...the thug USING the gun, rope, knife, etc. killed that person. Statistics don't lie! There's many weapons! "
VenomousVixon wrote on Oct 23, 2008 9:03 AM:
" I completely agree with you RALmom2...The fact is....people are going to carry or hold weapons of many kinds within their own homes for protection. Unfortunately....with the Tubbs family...from what I understand of the crime...it wouldn't have mattered if they had a weapon, the were maliciously killed or wounded without warning. There was no time to protect themselves from that crazy loon they call a "boy"!!! There was no excuse for his actions. And I still feel a deep sympathy for the family of the real victims in all of this...the children and grandchildren of the Tubbs. "
RALMom2 wrote on Oct 25, 2008 12:06 AM:
" I'm so thankful that small child in the house didn't get hurt. It is heartbreaking to know how close he was to his Grandma and now he's going to find out he was close by when she was shot. What a horrible memory! I wish people that killed others could see the aftermath of what they have done to others left behind BEFORE they kill. True a lot won't care, but there are some that seems like they could take it all back but it's too late. I wish this guy could look into the future of these children and grandchildren and see how long they have to go on without Kathy. It's bad enough when people die in accidents, but to die because somebody couldn't handle breaking up with a girl is unbelievable. I don't think some people realize how permanent death really is. They get upset, can't handle their temper, kill in seconds, and suddenly wish they hadn't done it, but it's tooo late to take it back. I agree they probably didn't have time to protect themselves. Matter of fact, who would have thought that somebody you had been giving food and shelter to & claimed to love your daughter would just shoot you in cold blood?? That must have been a shock! Especially here in Longview. You think you're safe here, but nooo. Nobody is safe. I hate seeing the crime getting worse here. Hard to believe it's the same city I grew up in! "
VenomousVixon wrote on Oct 25, 2008 9:57 AM:
" In some ways, I know what you mean RALMom2...I wasn't raised here, but I've been here since November of 92. I was 19 years old, and had just moved here. believe me....there was it's share of street kids floating around...I was one of them. But...things and people change, and quite frankly, it's worse now then it was back then. I remember when I first moved here there were plenty of things for kids to do...cruising, wonderland nickle arcades, plenty of bowling opportunities...movies (That didn't cost an arm and a leg)...etc....now those thing or most of them have been taken away...doesn't leave much for the imagination now. Kids are getting into trouble more now than ever. We need to start rebuilding Longview to suit the younger generation with legal means of entertainment or we're gonna keep getting what we've been getting. Trouble makers and kids that won't know how to vent anger but negatively. You know the saying Idle hands are the devils playground... "
the greg wrote on Nov 2, 2008 9:00 PM:
" I am sorry for what has happened to the Tubbs. I am a friend But these are the types of things that happen when you live a life style that sends the wroung messages to your children. I know what I am saying may seam unkind, but it is true. If you live this type of life and teach it to your children, what other way are they to know. This didn't have to have happened but that would have required the Tubbs to have lived a much different life. "
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