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Gloves come off early in 18th Legislative District debates

Thursday, October 9, 2008 12:08 AM PDT

By Barbara LaBoe
blaboe@tdn.com

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The first of three 18th Legislative District debates got off to a rancorous start in Longview Wednesday night with the Senate candidates trading barbs and personal accusations.

The exchange started with Democratic challenger Jon Haugen saying in his opening statement that he was running because he was "embarrassed" by Republican incumbent Sen. Joe Zarelli. Haugen said Zarelli's past cocaine possession should disqualify him for office. Haugen also later characterized Zarelli as unchristian and a spoiled child.

In 1983, when he was 21, Zarelli was arrested by Edmonds police for driving with a suspended license and two municipal court warrants. A small but usable amount of cocaine was found in his possession when he was booked into jail, according to Daily News archives. No drug charges were filed.

"I've never been arrested before, and I've not been arrested with cocaine," Haugen said. "And I've not declared bankruptcy like Joe. If he can't handle his own money, why on earth would you want him controlling it in Olympia?"

Zarelli filed for bankruptcy in 1987 to avoid repaying an overpayment of military living allowances. He told The Daily News in 1996 that his first wife had divorced him without his knowledge, leading to the military overpayments.

Asked if he ever used illegal drugs, Haugen said no.

Zarelli said his 13 years representing the district speaks for itself, and he took a few shots at Haugen for comments he said Haugen recently made in Vancouver. There, Zarelli said, Haugen referred to 18th District voters as "cabbages" willing to vote for anything with an R beside its name on the ballot.

"(The comment) is a pretty good indication of what he thinks of you," Zarelli said.

Haugen said he was quoting a comment someone made to him, but Zarelli replied that Haugen "is responsible for his words."

Zarelli said it puzzled him that things that happened when he was in his early 20s are a campaign issue when they're not in the presidential race.

"I have a proven track record in this district," Zarelli said. "I've come a long way and maybe it took me, as it does some people, a little longer to grow up. But I believe I've been a good husband and a good father and a good representative of the people of this district."

When the two talked about issues, Haugen spoke of his willingness to look to other states for proven solutions to the problems facing Washington, including getting rid of the Washington Assessment of Student Learning exams. Zarelli touted his work to reign in state spending and said he's worked hard to understand the needs of his district.

18th House race, position 1

Incumbent Republican Rep. Jaime Herrera said Wednesday that she hit the ground running after being appointed to the position last year. Democratic challenger Vanessa Duplessie said she's running to

improve education and attract new jobs to the area — and she said she has the small-business background to do so.

Herrera said she supports funding education but said not all improvements require more money. She said she wants to be sure taxpayers are getting a good "return on their investment" with current state funding. She said she also thinks the state needs to do a better job making sure classroom needs are met.

Duplessie said the state also needs to better define basic education and improve funding for school buildings. While the state is supposed to match up to 50 percent of the costs for districts, often it's just 25 percent, she said. That leaves districts unable to pass bonds or building new schools that are overcrowded on the day they open.

As for the state's projected $3.2 billion shortfall for the 2009-11 biennium, Herrera said it's a spending problem, not a revenue problem and that tough decisions will need to be made in Olympia. Duplessie said she believes previous investment in programs such as transportation means the state can scale back some programs now. Both women said they didn't favor increasing taxes to address the deficit.

18th House Race, position 2

Both incumbent Rep. Ed Orcutt and his Democratic challenger Jonathan Fant said they oppose the proposed Cowlitz Tribal casino in La Center and indicated tentative support of Oregon's proposed liquefied natural gas terminal, which would include a pipeline through parts of Cowlitz County.

Orcutt said the Cowlitz tribe hasn't suffered like the reservation tribes that casinos were designed to help. And he questions the different set of rules the tribe would operate under compared to private casinos. Fant said he told the tribe he wishes they'd proposed anything but a casino.

Orcutt said he was concerned about possible shipping disruptions the LNG plant might cause, but so far he hasn't heard huge shipping concerns from 18th District residents. He added he's also working with small timber owners to ensure landowners are paid fairly if the pipeline crosses their property.

Fant said he supports the new jobs the proposed LNG terminal would create, but he worries about the pipeline crossing the Columbia River.

Neither candidate supported the National Parks Service taking over the Mount St. Helens monument. They also both oppose proposed tolls to pay for an upgrade of the Interstate 5 bridge from Vancouver to Portland and said the proposed five lanes in each direction is too many.

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gimpy wrote on Oct 9, 2008 7:08 AM:

" What a pile of crap! Orcutt is running from the LNG question as fast as he can. I've tried unsuccessfully to engage him in conversation about it and he keeps claiming he "doesn't have enough information". This after we have been spoon feeding him information for two years. As to helping Cowlitz county tree farmers, he has yet to do ONE thing to assist proposed pipeline victims. And Fant can take his "jobs" back to Clark County; he obviously doesn't know what he is talking about. The only jobs created will be short-term construction jobs and they will not be going to locals. These two guys are an embarrassment, I won't vote for either. "

LJD wrote on Oct 9, 2008 7:21 AM:

" Everyone on tis planet has a skeleton or two in their closet. Including Haugen but he will never admit to it, therefore he is not as honest and righteous as he seems to want everyone to think. This cabbage is voting for Zarelli. "

bmoc wrote on Oct 9, 2008 11:18 AM:

" I hate to vote for the R - but I refuse to vote for a self-righteous punk either. If Haugen was elected what would he think about representing a population that has at least tried some illegal drugs or abused their prescriptions? I want someone who understands the people they work for, not who proclaims to be better than everyone else. Loser. "

Rural Citizen wrote on Oct 9, 2008 12:10 PM:

" I don't appreciate my tax dollars or my public utility payments going for the building of infrastructure for favored contractors to build mansions on the tip of Mt. Pleasant. Believe it or not that old quaing road that existed BEFORE it was dynamited was the reason we bought into this community. IT WAS A HISTORICAL ARTIFACT and this county dynamited it so that a couple of people could get rich.

Kind of like the Taliban dynamiting the ancient artifacts in the cliffs of their nation.

Zarelli has had his time. The republicans have GOT to go because they vote like soldiers. All for one and one for all. And the "all" is NOT THE PEOPLE... IT'S THE PARTY.

If you're NOT in the party you get screwed. Kind of like the SOVIET UNION. "

Rural Citizen wrote on Oct 9, 2008 12:23 PM:

" How about some useful links:

www.growwa.com/php.asp?g=washington&page=Candidate_Guide&legdistrictid=6766
This first one is a grass roots website dedicated to growing jobs for workers in Washington. It compares the background of BOTH candidates with no comments.

Here in Jon Haugen's website to learn all about him:
http://haugensenate.com/

Here's Joe Zarelli's website to learn all about him:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Joe-Zarelli/16104297211

I can't help noticing that Jon Haugen has spent a LOT more time answering questions about himself than Joe Zarelli has.

I have learned from my data search that Joe Zarelli is simply another one of those Republicans swept into office during the Gingrich Revolution... and that he is definitely responsible for the financial debacle of our nation's economy.

I don't want any more republicans making decisions about my financial or national future anymore. "

grams wrote on Oct 9, 2008 1:19 PM:

" After having quite a few discussions with Orcutt and his stand on LNG, I am confused ! None of us have heard from the Ports. That does not keep us, or many legislators from taking a position on this issue. During my last conversation with him he stated that he would do one of two things he would abstain or be an oponent of the LNG terminal on the Columbia River. He has done neither. My question is has he personally contacted anyone at any of the lower Columbia Ports in regard to this issue. The port officials I have spoken to, or have tried to reach, refuse to commit to concern or a "Tally Ho" on this issue. Sort of reminds me of the present implosion in the Stock market.. Are our port officials considering the jobs of the people they must rely on to get their business done or are they just ignoring the issues in regard to the navigational nightmare that threatens to occure should this terminal be built 38 miles up the 600 ft. wide shipping channel on the Columbia River. Just as in forestry, if there is any serious question in regard to the evironment, jobs, or safety, it seems the best choice is to take a position to protect all three of the above. My vote is pending! "

El Gabilon wrote on Oct 9, 2008 4:21 PM:

" Our time is more valuable than to go and listen to people running for political office tell the crowd about how good they are, what wonderfull track records they have and how bad their oppponents are. Our approach is simply "Maybe so, we don't know, but it sounds mighty queer. So go sling that cra- to another sap because BS don't go here." What counts is action, and from what we have seen most incumbents and candidates the only action being taken is finding ways to fill their own bank accounts. The canditates for the white house are no better...John McCain and Sarah Palin among the best BSers around. "

onmymind wrote on Oct 9, 2008 9:38 PM:

" So Zarelli doesn't think that character issues from long ago days aren't being used by McCain and Palin, then he must not watch television or read newspapers. It's difficult to believe that he didn't know his first wife divorced him and racked up an overpayment of military benefits. Count me in as a "cabbage". "

Kelso Parent wrote on Oct 10, 2008 12:02 PM:

" Obama can admit drug use, work for a federally indited ACRON as a "community organizer" and vote "Present" hundreds of times and he is qualified, no ordained for the Presidency?

Anyone who discredits Zarelli about these things in his past must to do the same for Obama. Haugen? Haugen? We are waiting...... "

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