Weekend marijuana raid yields 900 plants, no arrests
Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:34 PM PDT
By The Daily News
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E-mail this articleVADER — Detectives with the Lewis County Sheriff’s Regional Crime Task Force seized more than 900 marijuana plants from an outdoor grow in the Vader-Ryderwood area Sunday afternoon.
According to the sheriff’s office, the plants ranged from 2 to 5 feet in height and have an estimated street value of more than $900,000.
Detectives investigated a tip that eventually led them to a sophisticated grow operation, according to the sheriff’s office. No people were located at the grow site. In addition to the plants, detectives said they found a small amount of processed marijuana, a hand-dug water source, gardening tools, food, supplies and a camp set up for overnight stays.
Detectives spent more than eight hours removing the plants and processing the scene for evidence. The investigation is continuing, but no immediate arrests are expected, detectives said.
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hhh187 wrote on Aug 26, 2008 12:03 AM:
" legalize it, think of all the taxes that the state would be collecting if they made it legal, i mean i read on here about kelso schools cutting there special ed program, well here is one ways to fund some of the school and other budget problems around the state, thats just my 2cp. "
Q wrote on Aug 26, 2008 4:43 AM:
" With all the busts in recent months, lots of $'s if they'd just legalize and tax it!! "
boo275 wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:23 AM:
" Great Bust!!!! It is much better to raid a horticulture operation in Timbuktu then concentrate on meth labs supported by stolen metal........ "
Pat83t wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:10 AM:
" Let the "legalize it" pothead chant begin.
When are you people going to realize that it isn't legal nor is it going to be, therefor, these grow operations are still breaking the law. "
When are you people going to realize that it isn't legal nor is it going to be, therefor, these grow operations are still breaking the law. "
Amazed By Ignorance wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:11 AM:
" It is believed that God in His wisdom placed upon the earth everything Mankind would need to be happy. I know a few will take a shot or two at me for saying this but..I believe this to include many drugs. As long as they're in their natural form. It's only when man tampers with Gods creations...that things go wrong. Legalize it and be done with it. "
just a thought wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:30 AM:
" I just wanted to say that not all people that think it should be legalized are "potheads". If it was legalized it would bring in more funds for alot of good programs, and yes I am not stupid, I know that there will still be some people that will sell it illegally but at least it would bring in some money. Oh, fyi Pat83t, at one time alcohol was illegal and was never gonna be legalized either. "
Beavis Carries a .45 wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:41 AM:
" It doesn't matter how big this bust is. Remember the big house bust a while back where the whole house was filled with pot plants? That person only got three months. This Vader bust is small compared to that. Whoever gets arrested here will probably only get 4-6 weeks in jail. What a joke. "
country gal wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:42 AM:
" I'm all for law enforcements going after coke, meth, speed (chemically made type of drugs). Good job on their efforts on cracking them down. But to go after a plant that is naturally grown, you might as well go after the grapevines, dandelions (people make dandelion wine and the taste is not too bad either), mushrooms, etc. It's getting ridiculous. "
luke the drifter wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:58 AM:
" Legalize weed. The anti pot people will always say how it is a gateway drug...blah blah blah. Alcohol is far worse. Ever hear of anyone dying from a pot overdose? Or going to detox for marijuana poisoning? "
TDN Bad Boy wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:10 AM:
" I am so tired of the pot heads crying legalize it everytime there is a bust. It's NEVER gonna happen. And as for the tax revenue, what a joke. Even if it were legalized, that would not stop the street selling and of course we know every dealer is going to report his income and pay taxes on it. Why I'm sure they would even charge a sales tax and give the money to the state. Why sure they would, these outstanding business people just want to be part of the mainstream. What a croc. Grow up and realize that it won't ever happen. Still I agree that I would like to see more action against the meth and coke dealers and users. But hey if they find these plants, they have to bust it up and that's good. "
mythought wrote on Aug 26, 2008 10:25 AM:
" as for "no one dying from pot overdose"...I DO know a few that are pretty much "brain dead"...what a waste!! "
CONCERENED wrote on Aug 26, 2008 10:29 AM:
" what happens to all the pot the cops seize and make no arrests on? DO THEY SMOKE IT THEMSELVES? lol ,
the next time ya in vader and the police are all smiles, YOU ALL will know why :) "
the next time ya in vader and the police are all smiles, YOU ALL will know why :) "
SPARROW wrote on Aug 26, 2008 10:33 AM:
" If the legalization of alcohol, same sex marriages and abortion was possible, and the laws making it illegal to smoke cigarettes in public places passed, I think it is only a matter of time before pot will be legalized also. Never say Never. And unless the government sets such demands to make the growing operation so expensive and drive up the price of legal pot, the drug cartels and street dealers will not be needed. For pot smokers that are not into other street drugs would not risk dealing with some street corner vender if they could make a legal purchase at the drugstore. For the ones that continue doing business with their local dealer is probably into much more than pot anyway and could care less about the legalization. "
pierce co. repub. wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:03 AM:
" It is legal last time I checked. Got a headache? Get a 'script! Worried about Glaucoma? Get a 'script! Undergoing some stress and anxiety? Get a 'script! Maybe they raided the town of Vader's communal medicinal garden! "
Stella wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:06 AM:
" RE: mythought There was probably some other circumstances that contributed to your 'brain dead' friends other than a little pot. "
DUH wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:14 AM:
" Alcohol kills more people in one year than pot has in all of history. So I guess it's safe to say... "Better to smoke and thrive than to drink and drive." "
Tired of it wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:46 AM:
" ok,in this area where people work with dangerous machines for lumber and related products.You want the operator smoking pot.YOUR NUTS ! 100% NUTS ! "
bmoc wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:46 AM:
" Nice job, 900 plants down, ten billion to go. What a stupid waste of time. "
pot is stupid wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:55 AM:
" I am suprised by all the Pot Supporters in this community..That must be why we have so many METH HEADS...it truly is a gateway drug..Do the research..POT RUINS LIVES & FAMILIES...why do people have to smoke to escape everyday life?? If your life is that bad then make some changes..don't just smoke a few so you can ignore your problems. "
uh huh wrote on Aug 26, 2008 12:12 PM:
" The really funny thing is that even though the plants weren't worth $900,000 in the beginning the lazy task force gets to rip all of that money outta our taxpayers pockets. Money comes out of our taxpayers pockets to fund more lazy raids. Where if it were legalized for medicinal reasons it would keep money in our pockets and we would not have a deficit. Plus, who wants their young child to go to jail for experimenting with a plant? Don't you think you should just educate them like alcohol and say hey, this isn't cool? "
TDN Bad Boy wrote on Aug 26, 2008 12:32 PM:
" Everytime one of these stories comes up, the pot heads have the same response. Waste of money, make it legal, tax it, not as bad as drinking, blah, blah, blah. Look at uh huh. He sees no problem with a "young child" using pot. That's all anyone needs to know about that crowd. Completely burned out brain cells. Has anyone ever seen a stoned out person act more intelligently, be more alert, and have enough mental awareness to comprehend difficult decisions? How about operate dangerous equipment? Would you want to work next to a stoned out pot head if he/she were operating a saw or working with electricity? The only thing a pot head is good for is sitting around, listening to music saying "Wow Dude, did you see that?" Yes that's something we need more of in society. People without a brain or a clue. We already have too many -- they are called Liberals. "
Stella wrote on Aug 26, 2008 12:40 PM:
" The U.S. has more addiction problems than any of the countries who have legalized drugs. There are lower mortality rates due to overdose because they are not getting their supply from the street. Let's spend our money on more important issues such as our children's educations and medical expenses for the sick. These are humans you are speaking of when you talk about addicts and pot heads, not inanimate objects. I see they have cut special education aides at Kelso High, but we can spend gobs of money busting potgardeners and let the meth labs increase....... "
cheney119 wrote on Aug 26, 2008 12:46 PM:
" Some really crumby police work, isn't the goal to make arrests? Fine with me it should not be a crime in the first place. Hey bible thumpers did the good lord make evil plants? That makes a ton of sense. "
DUH wrote on Aug 26, 2008 1:05 PM:
" Hey Bad Boy...If it were legalized what makes you think people would be going to work stoned, or getting stoned at work for that matter? Alcohol is legal, what about aiming some of your arguments towards that? I don't want to work next to a drunk. Maybe you do but, I don't. All of your arguments against pot can go just the same toward alcohol but, not a mention of that. Hmmmm, you must be one of those holier than thou drinkers eh? "
TDN Bad Boy wrote on Aug 26, 2008 1:24 PM:
" Re: Duh -- Sorry but don't drink. Haven't in 30 years because of an illness. And no, if somebody came to my work drunk or with alcohol on their breath, they're gone. And it has happened more than once. Alcohol is something we could do a whole lot less with. Pot is something we can do completely without. It's funny. You're arguement is mainly that we allow alcohol. Not that what I said was incorrect about pot. And what about the brainless person who wants to give it to a "young child?" Now there is someone I do not want making decisions. We have too many weak people in society now and you want to make more just so you can get high? How about showing a little maturity. "
DUH wrote on Aug 26, 2008 1:37 PM:
" Hate to tell you this Bad boy but I have never tried marijuana nor do I ever intend to. But yes I am against alcohol. Completely. Nothing good ever comes from drinking alcohol. At least marijuana has medicinal uses and can improve a suffering patients quality of life. All alcohol ever did is create patients and cause the deaths of countless innocent lives via drunk drivers. You show me statistics that say the same for marijuana and I will be against it also. And yes, if any one of my employees show up at my job site drunk or stoned, it doesn't matter, they're fired. "
viper wrote on Aug 26, 2008 1:42 PM:
" well the side effects of pot is sleepy hunger and happy now how can that be bad for you ? you can't OD on it you just pass out and take a nap it is by far safer then any medication that the doctors give you for you pain and other conditions and yet you don't have to have a hangover in the morning and it's all natural without have to add drain cleaners and acetone like meth I perferr pot to and crap the doctors give and it does a better job so just legalize it and be done with it the country could use the extra money so they can give it away to other countries. legalize it and you won't have all the gangs trying to sell it, as long as it is illegal it will be big business for gangs > But then it would limt the cops from all of phoney arrests and have to go after meth and herion dealers and do some real work where brains are required : Viper
pot is the safest drug on the market in my opinion I would rather be around a pot head then I would a drunk any day ! "
pot is the safest drug on the market in my opinion I would rather be around a pot head then I would a drunk any day ! "
Rosey Glasses wrote on Aug 26, 2008 1:43 PM:
" TDN Bad Boy; just because someone smokes pot doesn't mean they go to work that way... Many that drink don't go to work that way. If it were legal, the taxes could help our government fund itself instead of increasing our taxes and cutting much needed programs in our schools. I agree with many of these posts regarding how the money could be used and the stupidity of our government to allow mob ruling of our country. Giving special interest groups such as the ones that helped pass the laws against it (even the paper companies were in on that, as hemp can be grown and produce more fiber per acre per year than trees). So go ahead and punish the few for the mob, just because some don't like it or want it around. I really don't care whether it is legal or not, but the government is missing a great opportunity to reap the benefits of an untapped income source, while relieving our overpopulated jail system. Make room for them meth dealers and manufacturers, murderers and child molestors... give them pot-heads a break. Yes I would rather work beside a pot-head any day (you would be amazed how many closet cases you work with) LOL "
Stella wrote on Aug 26, 2008 1:54 PM:
" Alcohol is the gateway drug. People who wouldn't even try drugs of any kind have tried something while drinking. The legal drug is the gateway drug! "
viper wrote on Aug 26, 2008 1:56 PM:
" pot is not a gateway drug! Bad lives, bad living conditions are the gateway drugs I know people that have use it for over 30 years and they don't use any other drugs how many medications on the market that are legal and givin by doctors that haven't killed some one some where just like asprin used to be bad for you now after they did research they found that one a day can save your life it's all goverment bull sh_t it's by far safer the alcohol and don't ruin your liver and other organs like alcohol does and you don't have to listen to some drunk blubbering in your ear ! "
kelso gringo wrote on Aug 26, 2008 2:10 PM:
" I agree with several posters on this issue. Marijuana use has never caused any serious problems. All (99%)of the drug-related crimes in our community are tied to meth, cocaine, heroin, or alcohol. Task force time and money would be much better spent pursuing these drugs versus pot. "
viper wrote on Aug 26, 2008 2:10 PM:
" I don't know if you can post a link in here but for you nay sayers you mite want to read this it's from the Fda great reading just change the xx to tt hxxp://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/viewresource.asp?resourceID=145
at least you will have some facts to think about ;Viper "
at least you will have some facts to think about ;Viper "
TDN Bad Boy wrote on Aug 26, 2008 2:14 PM:
" Rosey, I can guarantee you I don't work around any closet drunks. Nor do I work around any pot heads. This legalization argument is so dumb it is hilarious. Tax money? Are you kidding me? If you think people quit making alcohol just because it was legal, you must be high. And people will not stop growing and selling, just because it is legal. I guarantee you that, like with alcohol, the money made will not even come close to paying for the damage it does. Alcohol revenue doesn't. Anybody who every sat next to a stoned-out zombie in school knows exactly the effect of pot. There is no redeeming value to it. All it does is numb the senses and dumb down the brain. Anybody who thinks differently has smoked too much or is way too fond of the high to make a rational statement. Just pay your ticket and be happy we changed the law that much. It's never going to be legal. "
flatbakman wrote on Aug 26, 2008 2:19 PM:
" Have you ever wondered why they will make more than one buy (for coke, meth, heroin, etc.)from a dealer that can boogie out of the area at any time before they bust them, but when the cops find any amount of immature pot plants they always seem to jump in and destroy them before they can link any suspected growers to them? "
LOUIE wrote on Aug 26, 2008 2:40 PM:
" Never say never TDN Bad Boy. One day you may have to eat those words.
I have said over and over...it is not the use of Marijuana, or alcohol for that matter, it is the ABUSE.
I'm all for legalization. In fact leagalize all the drugs and let those who want to abuse them do so. They will die and we won't have to worry about them anymore. Also...gangs and others who bring drugs into the US from the South would have no more reasons for their activities. "
I have said over and over...it is not the use of Marijuana, or alcohol for that matter, it is the ABUSE.
I'm all for legalization. In fact leagalize all the drugs and let those who want to abuse them do so. They will die and we won't have to worry about them anymore. Also...gangs and others who bring drugs into the US from the South would have no more reasons for their activities. "
viper wrote on Aug 26, 2008 3:10 PM:
" have you ever researched the monthly medications that you get and use every month and seen the dangerous side effects that they cause, yet it is approved by the FDA for you to use ? and you take then anyway ? then you look for some one to sue because you got cancer or worse . only to make the drugs manufactors rich and all the money the goverment gets off each pill they make . yet it's legal to use if prescribed by a doctor? even knowing that it could kill you! and it's a crap shoot with everyone you take ! yet nobody cares !as long as that almighty buck can be made !you take one pill to get rid of some ailment and then you have to take something else for what this drug has caused and it goes on to where you are taking 10 pills aday and eating up your bank account to pay for them . have you ever seen an angry pothead ? There happy people just leave them alone there not hurting anyone and there not out stealing you blind to buy something they can grow and there not holding up banks or out beating people up like drunks and tweakers : Viper (Pro Pot ) "
uh huh wrote on Aug 26, 2008 3:20 PM:
" Just wondering, how many people would rather their highschoolers smoke a little pot or drink in the woods on the weekend? I always read about kids getting killed by stupidity and alcohol, never stupidity and weed. I say have it decriminalized so if they do decide to smoke a little pot instead of drink it would be a option. I'd rather them vedge out on a tv rather than get drunk out in the middle of nowhere away from their parents. As for TDN Bad Boy, thanks for your input, but I think that all the wrath you are putting on potheads is more harm than they produce. There is a line drawn between addiction and responsible use. Those who don't use responsibly usually get hooked on at least one thing. We call these people that have addicted personalities. No matter if anyone likes it or not people are going to do drugs. I'd rather someone get marijuana from a dispensary or store rather than a drug dealer that deals other drugs as well. "
uh huh wrote on Aug 26, 2008 3:30 PM:
" I would rather someone be offered marijuana than synthetic heroine or other pain killers. I would also rather them be lazy at home rather than out stealing or killing people on the roads by driving drunk. Marijuana doesn't kill people, its cigarettes and alcohol and prescription drugs. Its all the legal alternatives that Bad Boy would choose over something illegal. I say use marijuana as a safer alternative to harder drugs like alcohol and heroine, or METH. It's not worth ruining someones lives over a little pot. As for bad boy again, may the day come where you have to choose between Oxycontin or Marijuana. What would you choose for chronic pain? Or are you totally oblivious to the effects of marijuana? "
opinionated wrote on Aug 26, 2008 4:07 PM:
" To TDN Bad Boy : How do you know for a fact that you don't have an employee that drinks alcohol , smokes marijuana or does any other street drugs ? Just because they don't use before they come to work doesn't mean they don't use at all . Everywhere I go around town I see people working that I know smoke pot . Why are you so against marijuana ? What made you hate it so much ? "
thacherschmid wrote on Aug 26, 2008 4:08 PM:
" Web video coming soon: Longview-Kelso natives opine about whether or not marijuana should be legalized and recent busts of local pot growing operations.
Check tdn.com's video later this week.
--Thacher Schmid, tdn.com Web reporter "
Check tdn.com's video later this week.
--Thacher Schmid, tdn.com Web reporter "
country gal wrote on Aug 26, 2008 4:31 PM:
" To Opiniated: Maybe TDN Bad Boy gives them a morning urine test???? "
Rosey Glasses wrote on Aug 26, 2008 5:26 PM:
" Well TDN Bad Boy if you don't want to be around folks that do drugs or drink (yes at or before work) don't go to many of the restaurants around town. I worked in one that one of the cooks was selling meth! At the time the manager was even doing it! true story. That was back about 12 years ago, but you can't tell me these types of people change... most are guys you grew up with in this town. I knew many servers that smoked pot on thier lunch break! Give me a break! People may not let on that they do it... but rest assured that many of these people do smoke pot, drink, do meth and you may not even know (even Urine Anallisis can be clean, meth only takes 3 days, pot can be anywhere from one day to 5 weeks depending on body fat and other factors, alcohol 24 hours normally). I would like to know what bubble you are in! I would rather my kids smoke pot with their friends than drink and possibly drive home afterwords. *rolling my eyes* "
Rosey Glasses wrote on Aug 26, 2008 5:34 PM:
" Good one country gal.... you might just be right. I can hear it now "you all better not pee til you get to work! I want them urnine tests first thing, EVERY day!" LOL "
sosorry wrote on Aug 26, 2008 5:46 PM:
" Simple and happy solution for the marijuana problem- legalize it for people 50 years old and older. The young folks will quickly distance themselves from it as an "old folks" thing. Next time you need thorny problems like this solved just give me a call out in the garden... "
DUH wrote on Aug 26, 2008 6:15 PM:
" Figure 7.5% sales tax alone on that $900,000... The state could have made a killing. "
wowwow wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:07 PM:
" I am so glad they found that junk and I hope they find and destroy alot more before it destroys every ones brains and families. If you go back to the 60's, you will see how bad it hurt our people and our economy. Down with illegal drugs and by the way, they are illegal because they hurt humans. Wake up ..... "
louie wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:21 PM:
" Give me a break wowwow. It's time for you to wake up. I don't think Marijuana had anything to do with our economy in the 60's. Could it have been another unwanted war?..that would be my guess, not Marijuana. "
viper wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:40 PM:
" hey tdn bad boy isn't this what alcohol does as quoted :All it does is numb the senses and dumb down the brain. these are your very words. pot heads can still function and work not like drunks . I would rather my kids smoke pot then drink and drive if kids somke they normally stay where there at ans not drive not like alcohol where they think there invinceable . and pot don't make you stupid when I get stoned . I find my self reading on the net for hours on end . I think it's a real good thing and I can be relaxed and pain free while doing it pot is a good thing if used in moderation . :Viper "
Mr. Chinook wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:43 PM:
" Since the drug task force openly admits to only busting a small percentage of all the grow operations these busts must mean that we will have lots more "un-busted" smoke available this fall & winter. Right On! Eeeeeeeerreee... "
Rosey Glasses wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:54 PM:
" Not to worry louie, it just showes how the media and marijuana nazis have brainwashed our society! I have seen alcohol and or meth do more damage to a family than those who smoked pot all their lives. I gave up smoking for my own reasons, but I still advocate the right for people to make their own decisions and for the mob to quit telling us what we can and cannot do with our bodies and lives. Grief... cigarettes damage the body and are more addictive than any drug I know of, yet they are legal, for now anyhow. I think that one day the mob will make it to where we can't even have cigarettes... the good lord forbid! "
TDN Bad Boy wrote on Aug 26, 2008 10:53 PM:
" You pot heads are hilarious. You probably should move to Europe where you can waste away legally. It won't happen in America. As for how do I know Rosey, well there are ways to find out. My business takes a high level of mental compentency. I could sit down with any of my employees and within 10 minutes of discussing the daily tasks I would have a very good idea. In the past 10 years I have done so with 4 employees and when I eventually asked all 4 about it, 3 tried to deny. I offered them medical testing. One quit but the othe two thought they could beat it. Both tested positive for drugs and one also for alcohol. I offered treatment but said the employment was over. You Rosey could not fool me. I love it when pot heads don't think people know they are high. Any smart person who knows what to look for in behaviour and intelligence changes will know. Pot heads are like cigarette smokers. Non smokers can tell you in a second who is smoking just by the stench. Pot has its signs too. A good employer who doesn't want it around will know. And I don't want it or alcohol around my business. I guarantee you I take the time to know my employees, their work, and their weaknesses. And I applaud every business that requires employment testing. Employees don't have the right to bright their weaknesses to my business. "
bmoc wrote on Aug 27, 2008 9:55 AM:
" Bad boy - I have used marijuana morning, noon, and night for ten years plus and to this day my employers have no knowledge of it, nor do they need to know about my medical needs. I am a very skilled and resourceful employee, a leader and a very respected individual. If I did not use cannabis like I do, I would be sitting home with pain and constant vomiting. My expeience tells me that you have no clue, no compassion, and no worth even debating the topic. It's sort of fun to ridicule your absurd opinions though! "
AnotherLameOpinion wrote on Aug 27, 2008 10:25 AM:
" To BMOC, I must agree with your take on Bad Boy completely. He spouts off a lot of stuff, but when anyone asks him to show proof, he avoids that response and goes on to attack the next pro-pot post. What a windbag!!!! "
DUH wrote on Aug 27, 2008 10:40 AM:
" It'd dem dawg gone perublikans I tell ya. They'll never legalize it cuz then they'd have to pay for it! "
TDN Bad Boy wrote on Aug 27, 2008 10:57 AM:
" BMOC, I guarantee you would not be working in my business. To think otherwise is plain stupidity on your part, perhaps clouded in the weed in you smoke. I will say this again, you would not be working in my business. "
DUH wrote on Aug 27, 2008 11:08 AM:
" The only business you are into Bad Boy is everybody's but your own. "
bmoc wrote on Aug 27, 2008 11:17 AM:
" Bad Boy - My not working in your business would be of my choosing, not yours. And I am subject to random drug screenings by the way. So you wouldn't have a clue, even if I was stupid enough to work for you. "
just a thought wrote on Aug 27, 2008 11:32 AM:
" Everyone that is ganging up on TDN Bad Boy should leave him alone. His work takes a "high level of mental compentency" which means he must know more than anyone else when it comes to everything. He is not a closed minded, ignorant person, he is highly intellegent, unlike anyone else. Maybe one of these days he will get an injury or find need, such as cancer, for some sort of pain relief and realize that not everyone that uses pot does it to get blasted out of their minds but some people need it to deal with everyday life. TDN Bad Boy, count yourself lucky that you can have such a closed mind to so many things, maybe one of these days something will happen to you or someone you love that will make you open your eyes. "
mole wrote on Aug 27, 2008 11:43 AM:
" TDN BADBOY:NOBODY WANTS TO WORK FOR YOU!!!YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOG BOUND TO TELL,THAT YOU, KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MARIJUANA!!!!! "
mole wrote on Aug 27, 2008 11:48 AM:
" BY THE WAY I HAVE SMOKED IT FOR 38 YEARS,THE LAST 20YEARS LEGALLY,SO IT HAS BEEN,STATE WIDE LEGALALIZED, IN SEVERAL STATES OR IT IS A MISDAMEANOR,UNDER A CERTAIN AMOUNT. "
MOLE wrote on Aug 27, 2008 12:32 PM:
" LEFT OUT THE MEDICAL PART BUT THAT IS IRRELEVANT TO TDN BADBOY!!! "
TDN Bad Boy wrote on Aug 27, 2008 12:35 PM:
" You pot heads are great comedy. Most of you are losers and you know it. You earn less than $30,000 to $40,000 or you are protected by a union that hides your weaknesses. Either way it is unimportant to me. The fact is unless you found some hack doctor to write a prescription you are breaking the law and you are very paranoid about it. And I think that is very funny. You are a complete waste of life. Now chill out, smoke some weed and take your lude before you blow your gasket again. Anyway your reacts are very funny. "
Rosey Glasses wrote on Aug 27, 2008 1:26 PM:
" TDN BB: their posts aren't nearly as funny nor nieve as yours LOL. go ahead and live in your bubble... just quit trying to impose it on the rest of the community!! LOL Gotta love a good debate, especially when some folks believe that their way is perfect. "
AnotherLameOpinion wrote on Aug 27, 2008 2:03 PM:
" To TDN BadBoy: for a guy with so much resposibility, and a job requireing such a high level of mental competency, you sure seem to have a lot of extra time to argue with a bunch of dumb stoners. Are you sure your not making up the part about owning a business to bolster your overly inflated ego? You sure seem to like to mention it a lot, as if any of us really care. "
DUH wrote on Aug 27, 2008 2:07 PM:
" Someone once told me that those that scream the loudest about potheads are either former potheads themselves or potheads that don't want anybody knowing they ARE potheads. Which is it Bad Boy? Your screams hurt my ears! "
mole wrote on Aug 27, 2008 2:31 PM:
" what any one makes is none of your business,I MADE THAT KIND OF MONEY IN 1973,LEGALLY!!COMMERCIAL FISHING AT IT'S FINEST,BRISTOL BAY ALASKA,AND I WOULD NOT HIRE YOU TO CLEAN THE BILDGES OF ONE OF MY VESSELS!!!T.D.N BADBOY TAKE A NAP!!!! "
roudy russ wrote on Aug 27, 2008 4:54 PM:
" Hey TDN(wanna be)Bad Boy, are you really a business owner or just a cyber soldier trying to impress? How would you be able to tell if someone was under the influence of marijuana when you have obviously never been under the influence of it your self. I am a REAL BAD BOY son. I have not used any drug or drink for many years now but having used pot, meth, coke, heroin, booze, and a few other things, I can say from personal experience that pot is the least of anyones worries around this town. By the way, Yes I am a DEMONCRAT! "
GI_T.john wrote on Aug 27, 2008 6:17 PM:
" Just for perspective. I'm a 22 year old veteran. I've spent 2 years in Afghanistan, fullfilled my millitary contract, have a spotless police record (including traffic tickets) and I have landed a career in which I earn 60k+ a year at the starting wage. I am and have been a habitual marijuana smoker since i was 13, excluding 80% of my time overseas (wont lie we smoked quite a bit sometimes when we'd come across a 15-30 acre crop). This isn't a bragging or flexing my life kinda post. I worked hard and continue to work hard everyday. If we live in a free society i am free to put whatever i want into my own body as long as i dont infringe the rights of others. I've gone to war for my country under those personal beleifs. so TDN bad boy, am i a medical miracle? because i dont fit the "eat chips and play video games" pot head stereotype? or is it that thats exactly what it is. just a stereotype. I'm dieing to here your response as to why i am and will continue to live a successful happy life UNDER THE INFLUENCE of the devil weed. "
Orcinas wrote on Aug 27, 2008 7:53 PM:
" Marijuana slows heart rate and breathing, it reduces inner eye pressure in glaucoma patients and is used (Marinol) by AIDS and cancer patients to increase appetite after their gruelling therapies. If it were legalized, there would not be people "selling it on the street corners." I don't see anyone sitting on street corners selling cigarettes (and tobacco is harder to grow than a naturally occurring weed). It is less traumatic to the human body than either tobacco or alcohol and makes a great textile.
It amazes me how a plant got all mixed up with cocaine, heroin, meth, etc. It diminishes cognative functions about the same as large amounts of chocolate (which, by the way, is also a drug). I can drink my life, my wife, my house, and my money away, and smoke cigarettes until my lungs cease to function (both of which we are paying for with medical expenses), but if I grow or smoke a cannabis plant, I will go to jail. Aspirin, alcohol, chocolate, coffee, etc...a drug should be evaluated on its affects. "
It amazes me how a plant got all mixed up with cocaine, heroin, meth, etc. It diminishes cognative functions about the same as large amounts of chocolate (which, by the way, is also a drug). I can drink my life, my wife, my house, and my money away, and smoke cigarettes until my lungs cease to function (both of which we are paying for with medical expenses), but if I grow or smoke a cannabis plant, I will go to jail. Aspirin, alcohol, chocolate, coffee, etc...a drug should be evaluated on its affects. "
PuffY wrote on Aug 28, 2008 3:46 AM:
" ok tdn bb, in the debate you loose!to the NORML thinking people here who do not impose judgment on others for what they choose to ingest into there own body!if you want to beat the system go sign up for cowlitz county jury duty!if a non violent marijuana case falls into your lap ACQUIT!they will get sick of wasting time/money prosecuting bs marijuana cases!and mabey they will target the REAL drug problems in cowlitz county! "
CadillacCreepin' wrote on Aug 28, 2008 8:49 AM:
" just hitting on the gateway drug topic-
i have been smoking since i was 14, 22 now
but i have not once EVER had the urge to snort a fat line and take a fat rip of meth
just not my style "
i have been smoking since i was 14, 22 now
but i have not once EVER had the urge to snort a fat line and take a fat rip of meth
just not my style "
Amazed By Ignorance wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:44 AM:
" Why do people insist on giving TDN Bad Boy any power here? Don't you know that it is what he lives for? Let him have his right to post...and let it go. The intelligent debate would get back on track all the quicker. Saves us the headaches, and he can go back working at the job he claims...and hunting down us evil liberals. "
DW wrote on Sep 7, 2008 10:18 AM:
" They are not going to legalize pot and they never should. I have fired employees for coming to work stoned. And yes it's not hard to spot. One nice bowl in the parking lot before you come to work and I can smell it a half mile away. I do not walk to work with people who are on any kind of mind altering drug. It's just a receipe for an accident. This debate is over. "
Kelso Guy wrote on Sep 8, 2008 3:38 PM:
" ...who are on a mind altering drug? That would be most of America, only difference is, most of those drugs are legal with a prescription. you are entitled to your opinion. But many things are a recipe for disaster, like strapping a board to your feet and jumping out of a helicopter into the snow, but that isn't illegal. "
witnessrevolution wrote on Sep 13, 2008 5:52 AM:
" i am a personal witness as to how Marijauna can be a gateway drug, started with weed, then came pills, than meth, not to mention the alcohol abuse, then the combo of all four? DO NOT LEGALIZE!!! "
AnotherLameOpinion wrote on Sep 14, 2008 5:45 AM:
" So witnessrevolution, did you smoke first or drink first. I personally would call alcohol the gateway drug!!! "
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