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Longview woman presses PUD over new rate for the disabled

Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:31 AM PST

By Erick Olson

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Havana Nasserghandi wears two or three sweaters, a stocking cap and a scarf when she kicks back in her duplex north of St. John Medical Center in Longview.

It's cold outside, and it's almost as cold inside because Nasserghandi can't afford to turn up the heat. She lives on a fixed state disability income, so she tries to save money where she can.

So when she heard about a new Cowlitz PUD program that offers disabled ratepayers discounts as high as 20 percent - about $135 per year - she wanted to know where to sign.

But there was a catch: Nasser-ghandi has been a Cowlitz PUD ratepayer for eight months, four months short of the PUD's eligibility requirement for the assistance program. Nasserghandi doesn't think that's fair to disabled people who are just regaining independence, such as those who may have left an abusive relationship or relocated from Community House on Broadway, Longview's homeless shelter.

"I feel deprived of what I'm actually entitled to," she said.

Nasserghandi has obsessive compulsive disorder. It's a disability with no physical symptoms - no wheelchair, no seeing eye dog, no walking cane. She wonders if she would have less of a struggle with the PUD if her disability were more obvious to the casual observer.

Nasserghandi said she is upset because she's been made to feel like she doesn't deserve the disability status accorded by the discount. And she wants Cowlitz PUD officials to know about it.

"How many disabled people left your office crying because they haven't been able to get the help they thought they could get?" Nasserghandi asked the three-member PUD commission at its regular business meeting Tuesday.

She added that she has signed a 12-month lease for her apartment, which indicates she intends to stay for a full year.

The discount program is unfairly biased against people who have been disabled for years but recently moved to Cowlitz County, she said. She thinks the PUD capitalizes on the good PR of the program without providing the service to everyone who needs it.

The PUD launched the program for disabled, low-income ratepayers in October, PUD spokesman Dave Andrew said. Disabled citizens can receive rate reductions of 10 percent or 20 percent, depending on their income level.

So far, 130 people have signed up for the program, according to the PUD. Applications for this year's program can be submitted through March. Another application period will be held September through November through the Lower Columbia Community Action Program, Andrew said. Nasserghandi would qualify for assistance next winter.

Eleven of the 21 PUDs in Washington that offer residential service have a similar program for disabled ratepayers, according to Cowlitz PUD. The discounts vary from 10 percent to 30 percent.

Andrew said he couldn't find another utility in the state with a similar residency requirement, but he defends the PUD rule. It's a safeguard against any fraudulent claims, such as using an elderly or disabled parent to obtain the discount, he said. After all, the cost is borne by the rest of the utility's rate payers, he said.

"We want to make sure a customer is getting it who truly deserves it," Andrew said. He added that he did not question whether Nasserghandi qualified.

Nevertheless, Nasser-ghandi said she was "offended" by that explanation. Instead of punishing everyone, the PUD should just prosecute those who make false claims, she said.

"I think what he said was that poor people cheat, poor people steal," she said after the meeting.

The PUD commissioners decided to review the program late this summer. They acknowledged the program is new and imperfect.

"The points you bring up today will maybe not help you but will help others down the road," Commissioner Mark McCrady told Nasserghandi.

For now, Nasserghandi will continue to don her three sweaters inside her apartment at night.

"It's like camping when you go to my house."

Way to go wrote on Feb 7, 2008 8:08 PM:

" Right on Navana LOL "

hey wrote on Feb 8, 2008 9:08 AM:

" it's Havana dum dum. "

to Havana Nasserghandi wrote on Feb 8, 2008 9:12 AM:

" If You don't like the rules in our county than why don't You stop whining and move,we have enough cry babies around here,just pack up and get out of here,nobody cares about what you think,and I'm sorry to inform you,but sounds like you are using the whole o.c.d thing as an excuse to get handouts,the only thing I want to assist you in is packing a U-Haul. "

Whoa now... wrote on Feb 8, 2008 10:35 AM:

" These postings are very harsh. To TDN: Why was "hey" comment posted? I think that falls under one of the guidline of postings that will not be posted. "Personal privacy. Personally attacking someone rather than criticizing an idea."
I thought you guys would use better judgement. "

re:Whoa now... wrote on Feb 8, 2008 12:15 PM:

" If you dont like the comments don't read them,your acting like a little baby. "

hey wrote on Feb 8, 2008 3:45 PM:

" is Havana Nasserghandi a man or a woman? "

Methinks wrote on Feb 9, 2008 5:09 PM:

" neither..... perhaps new hybrid model with kinks to work out. "

Whoa now... wrote on Feb 11, 2008 9:16 AM:

" I'm acting like a little baby? I think you guys are acting like a bunch of imature children. Think about it. You are on here insulting someone with a certified disability. Are you serious? Must take real cold heart to be that tasteless. Congrats. "

re Whoa now... wrote on Feb 11, 2008 1:50 PM:

" Would you like some cheese for your wine? Oh, guess that's not wine since babies aren't supposed to drink. Are you drunk? Yes I'm serious! "

re:whoa now... wrote on Feb 11, 2008 6:56 PM:

" Are you man, woman or hybrid model? "

Dumb wrote on Feb 11, 2008 9:20 PM:

" Dumb is for the PUD policy of confiscating rate payers funds without our consent and giving them to others that pay a lower rate because of some bogus disability. "

not disabled wrote on Feb 11, 2008 10:49 PM:

" I cannot believe some of these comments nor can I believe that the daily news would even print the crap, none of you have to agree with her but why the hell slam her and what the hell does it matter what gender she is , all of you are ignorant self involved people and probably the ones that spend much time cheating the system,maybe her idea to prosecute the ones that cheat made you nervous because you dont want to face prosecution, my god why would the daily news print these comments AND not mine, the things I have said are not near as bad. Havana I agree with you and seen you at the meeting and thought you were great. "

Banana wrote on Feb 12, 2008 6:40 AM:

" In this day and age being classified as disabled sometimes means you have hired a special attorney. We have a large group of people that are making a living from getting others declared handicapped and collecting public money. This makes a tremendous burden on the general public and means less money for those that truly need it. These people seem to know every freebie in the book. This household sounds like a case in point. "

Whoa now... wrote on Feb 12, 2008 7:58 AM:

" Wow... The maturity level is way to high in here for me. Have fun bashing to boost your selfesteem. "

if you only knew wrote on Feb 12, 2008 12:05 PM:

" If you only knew what it was to be a parent of a child with OCD then maybe some of you might not post such comments. OCD is a VERY true and scary disorder, I wish each of you could step into the life of someone with OCD for 1 day to see oh how true and real OCD is. "

re:if you only new wrote on Feb 13, 2008 1:34 AM:

" I have it severely,I take care of it with medication,yes,it can be hard to deal with but so are many problems people have,O.C.D does not make you anymore disabled than any other problem people have. "

Karen wrote on Feb 14, 2008 1:32 PM:

" Please continue to allow people to post comments on stories in the Daily News. I think everyone should be allowed to post what they feel. I feel that the majority of the letters that offend someone is showing the inmaturity of the poster and I do not waste my time reading their post.I agree with Havana if she is legally disabled. I disagree more with the young men living with a girl, pregnant and already pushing a carriage just to have a place to stay and food stamps. I see many of these guys and they are not attempting to work at all. "

re: re:if you only new wrote on Feb 15, 2008 6:18 AM:

" "Quote"" I have it severely,I take care of it with medication,yes,it can be hard to deal with but so are many problems people have,O.C.D does not make you anymore disabled than any other problem people have. ""Quote"

I was in no way saying that one disabilities is more severe then the other, my comment was that OCD is very real, alot of people think its a fake disorder, and a attention getter, when in fact it is not. "

re:re:re:if you only new wrote on Feb 15, 2008 9:54 AM:

" What's up with the whole quote thing?No o.c.d is not a fake disorder,but,it does NOT make you disabled,unless she refuses to take the medication needed to control it's symptoms,she certainly does not have qualify for any discounts from the pud,if that was the case,shouldn't we all get a discount for are problems,I guess you could label any problem a disability if you are that weak minded and can't deal with road blocks that we all face,if that was the case,wouldn't we all get a discount,You don't deserve any discount's Mr.nasserghandi,it is mister correct? "

Joyce Lamb wrote on Feb 16, 2008 7:41 AM:

" It just boils my blood the way our disabled seniors (no matter what the issue or age on A FIXED INCOME) have to go through it just so obios they dont care. to me personally every time i hear or read one of these statics it just boils my blood.. they have in my book just burned our flag right before our eyes (how many times we have to duppilicate that issue) Those are the people that can go back from where they came from!!GOD BLESS YOU HAVANA NASSERGHANDI it just go to show they have no RESPECT!~!for the next! I know what your going through I have been in the community house.. have seen skid row with my own eyes..Have been in soup lines..DONT WORRY GOD HAS YOU IN HIS HANDS>>> "

re:Joyce Lamb wrote on Feb 17, 2008 4:12 PM:

" Well Joyce,keep that blood boiling because nobody really cares what you think,go whine to somebody else,if you don't like freedom of speech than don't read these post JOYCE!! "

PUD customer wrote on Feb 21, 2008 3:54 AM:

" I am a pud customer and I don't have a big monthley income, but I do work, and alot sometimes. My last couple of bills have been close to 200.00 and I have little heat turned on. I would be a little pissed off if my money was going to pay for a program like this without me knowing about it. I can barely afford to pay my bills, I can't afford to pay someone elses because they have a questionable dissability.











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The Sun's Out! wrote on Feb 22, 2008 7:20 PM:

" With the better weather, Havana is probably without her blankie and down to her nightie. No further need for pud discount this year! "

Casey wrote on Feb 22, 2008 8:04 PM:

" "I feel deprived of what I'm actually entitled to," she said.

WOW. You're entitled to the discount AFTER TWELVE MONTHS. That's IT! It would be awesome if I could change rules and regulations for things as I see fit, but unfortunately that's just not the way it works.

Be thankful the discount is even available to you. Please make sure to send the PUD a thank you card at Christmas when you have a few extra dollars in your pocket. "

In Summary wrote on Feb 23, 2008 6:08 PM:

" Grow up Havana and join the human race. "Disabled" or not you need to learn to respect the rules. If you don't like them, go somewhere else instead of crying to the local snoozepaper about how you deserve something which you clearly do not. I hope this wonderful weather finds you frostbite free Havana. Good luck! "

Feel the flames... wrote on Feb 23, 2008 11:15 PM:

" All these "flames" should warm Havana right up. It nice to see so many "compassionate" people living in an area I used to call home. Now I remember why I moved out almost 3 decades ago. Please remember your "kind" words when someday you or someone close to you is in need of some assistance and can't get it. "

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